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AutoBrag Deal Of The Day: 2009 Hyundai Sonata

August 18th, 2008

This is our 124th AutoBrag Deal Of The Day.  What we’ve done is searched through www.autobrag.com and discovered certain vehicles being sold for considerably less than market prices.  Usually, the dealerships are using these “loss leaders” as a way to gain more business.

We found a 2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A) from Browns Manassas Hyundai

The lowest Internet Price: $15,465.00
MSRP: $20,845.00
ePrice: $15,465.00
Savings: $5,380.00
% OFF MSRP: 25.81 %

Why Is This The AutoBrag Deal Of The Day:

The average wholesale price for a used 2008 Hyundai Sonata GLS 4Cyl with 22,613 miles (average) is $13,400.00. If you were to buy this new car at sticker price of $20,845.00, after one year, your depreciation would be roughly 35.72% of the vehicle’s value or $7,445.00 over the 12 months or $620.42 per month. That does not even include the money you lose on sales tax and registration!

If you were to buy this specific 2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS 4Cyl for $15,465.00, you would be able to drive it for one year and trade it in or sell it at wholesale market for $13,400.00. That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $2,065.00 or $172.08 per month (not including taxes and fees). The depreciation for the period of one year would be 13.35%.

If the car was sold via private party the price would be about 5%-10% higher than wholesale. That means that you probably would sell this car for about $14,070.00 (5% over wholesale) to $14,740.00 (10% over wholesale). That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $1,395.00 to $725.00 or per month that would be $116.25 to $60.42 (not including taxes and fees).

Using AutoBrag’s Deal Of The Day, the Dealer eats 72.26% of year one’s depreciation based on wholesale market for the same vehicle.

For disclosure purposes WE DO NOT receive compensation from Browns Manassas Hyundai; we are just trying to save car consumers time and money.

Crash Test and Rollover Ratings for the 2009 Hyundai Sonata.




How Much Should I Pay: 2008 Hyundai Accent (Updated)

August 14th, 2008

This Is An Update To A Previous Question

Question From Fun Driver: How much is this new 2008 Hyundai Accent 4dr GLS really worth (wholesale?). w/ air-conditioning, and ABS brakes.

advertised for $13,890

Thanks

MuscleCarGuy: Hi Fun Driver, Welcome to AutoBragBlog, where we do all the car price researching for you.

For a 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS 4dr Sedan (1.6L 4cyl 4A),

The Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $12,617.60
MSRP: $16,240.00
ePrice: $12,617.60
Savings: $3,622.40
% OFF MSRP: 22.31 %

2nd Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $12,332.00
MSRP: $15,830.00
ePrice: $12,332.00
Savings: $3,498.00
% OFF MSRP: 22.10 %

How do you apply these prices?

Print out all the blue links and take them to your local Hyundai dealerships. But before you go, we highly recommend you call and make an appointment to see the Internet Sales/Fleet Manager because he/she should know exactly what you’re talking about. Avoid the floor salesmen, head straight to the Internet Sales Manager.

If they don’t believe your prices, ask to use one of their computers so they can see where these figures came from. It’ll be impossible for them to doubt you because you’re pulling up a Hyundai dealership’s website and checking their inventory. Remember, cars are a commodity so these prices apply everywhere in the U.S. This car in Florida should cost the same in California. The taxes vary by state.

Here’s the 2008 Hyundai Accent Crash Test & Rollover Results. If you want to research more Hyundai Accent prices, poke around on www.autobrag.com. Keep us posted with how everything goes.

Follow Up Comment: Ok, so I went to a dealer today, took a test drive of a 2Dr Accent GS, with the popular equipment package (Air conditioning, XM etc, no ABS brakes). MSRP was around 14,900. I got them down to factory invoice 13943, but the “bad cop” came out and wouldn’t drop any lower, and then wouldn’t give me any money on my trade (dropped from $2000 to $1500 on my trade because he went from MSRP to “factory” invoice), because I was “buying a car with little mark up”.
Any advice? Any deals I can pull out to get them lower?

MuscleCarGuy: Hi Fun Driver, Welcome back to AutoBragBlog, where we do all the car price researching for you.

You should be careful with this dealer; it looks like they are one of those that want to get the most out of your pocket. If the MSRP of the car is $14,900.00, you should start the negotiation based on $13,900 being the real MSRP. Hyundai has a $1,000.00 Consumer Cash Back on the 2008 Hyundai Accent and the Dealer is supposed to tell you about that incentive. That discount comes from Hyundai and has nothing to do with the Dealer’s Profit. Below are some No-Haggle prices for you to have an idea on how much other dealers are selling the same 2008 Hyundai Accent. If they can sell for that price there is no reason why your local dealer can’t sell it for the same price. You should print those ads and take them with you to show them where you got those prices.

For a 2008 Hyundai Accent GS 2dr Hatchback (1.6L 4cyl 4A),

The Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $11,544.00
MSRP: $14,355.00
ePrice: $11,544.00
Savings: $2,811.00
% OFF MSRP: 19.58 %

2nd Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $12,269.00
MSRP: $14,800.00
ePrice: $12,269.00
Savings: $2,531.00
% OFF MSRP: 17.10 %




How Much Should I Pay: 2008 Hyundai Accent

August 11th, 2008

Question From Fun Driver: How much is this new 2008 Hyundai Accent 4dr GLS really worth (wholesale?). w/ air-conditioning, and ABS brakes.

advertised for $13,890

Thanks

MuscleCarGuy: Hi Fun Driver, Welcome to AutoBragBlog, where we do all the car price researching for you.

For a 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS 4dr Sedan (1.6L 4cyl 4A),

The Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $12,617.60
MSRP: $16,240.00
ePrice: $12,617.60
Savings: $3,622.40
% OFF MSRP: 22.31 %

2nd Biggest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $12,332.00
MSRP: $15,830.00
ePrice: $12,332.00
Savings: $3,498.00
% OFF MSRP: 22.10 %

How do you apply these prices?

Print out all the blue links and take them to your local Hyundai dealerships. But before you go, we highly recommend you call and make an appointment to see the Internet Sales/Fleet Manager because he/she should know exactly what you’re talking about. Avoid the floor salesmen, head straight to the Internet Sales Manager.

If they don’t believe your prices, ask to use one of their computers so they can see where these figures came from. It’ll be impossible for them to doubt you because you’re pulling up a Hyundai dealership’s website and checking their inventory. Remember, cars are a commodity so these prices apply everywhere in the U.S. This car in Florida should cost the same in California. The taxes vary by state.

Here’s the 2008 Hyundai Accent Crash Test & Rollover Results. If you want to research more Hyundai Accent prices, poke around on www.autobrag.com. Keep us posted with how everything goes.




How Much Should I Pay: 2007 Hyundai Elantra

Question From Justine: I have found this 2007 Hyundai Elantra GLS manual with 17,150 miles on it. It is being advertised as 14,495. I think I should not pay more than 12,500-13,000 for it. What are your thoughts? What should I pay for this car if I am buying it from a dealer?

MuscleCarGuy: Hi Justine. Welcome to AutoBragBlog, where we do all the car price researching for you.

For a 2007 Hyundai Elantra GLS with 17,150 miles, prices range from $12,600 (being in above average condition) to $12,100 (being in average condition) and $11,600 (being in below average condition). Keep in mind that the numbers above are the wholesale prices. A dealership will usually aim to sell it for +12%-14% more than wholesale, so their estimated retail prices could range from $12,900 to $14,300.

The asking price for this 2007 Hyundai Elantra GLS is a litle to high if the car is in great condition. You should be able to get it for $13,000 - $13,500. Make sure to check the histoy of the car and have a mechanic check it before you buy to make sure that everything is fine with the car. Good luck and keep us posted on how everything goes!




How Much Should I Pay: 2009 Hyundai Sonata

August 6th, 2008

Question From Marilyn:  I think we would like a 2009 Hyundai sonata limited, 4 cyl, silver with gray or beige. However, I have been checking a bit further and seems like the depreciation on these cars is about 32% after the first year. Therefore, we would be interested in 2008 or 2007 with low mileage in perfect working order. thanks for the reply and hope that we can work together. m pfeifer

Queen of the Road: Hi Marilyn. Below are two of our best deals for the Hyundai Sonata. 20%+ off MSRP.

For a 2009 Hyundai Sonata Limited 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A),

The Largest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $21,140.60
MSRP: $27,735.00
ePrice: $21,140.60
Savings: $6,594.40
% OFF MSRP: 23.78%
AutoBrag rated this deal a Thumbs Up.

2nd Largest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $21,066.00
MSRP: $26,525.00
ePrice: $21,066.00
Savings: $5,459.00
% OFF MSRP: 20.58%
Another Thumbs Up deal!

What are all these blue links for? The first blue link breaks down the numbers so that you don’t have to do any math or researching. You’ll see exactly how much money you’re saving if you pay the “Internet Price”. It also lists the National Average Discount, the National Maximum Discount and the National Average Price for each vehicle. We also provide our personal opinion to whether we think the deal is good or not.

If we approve the deal, we’ll show a thumbs up and “Bring Your Checkbook“.

If we think the deal is ok, we’ll show a thumb tilted sideways and “Fair Market“.

If we disapprove the deal, we’ll show a thumbs down and “Keep Shopping“.

The second blue link is the proof you’ll need when you step foot onto the dealership. Don’t leave home without it! It’s the page that shows the price which you’ll be asking for. It’s basically what you need to pull up on their computers if they don’t believe you found that price online form that dealer’s inventory.

So now what? Print out all the blue links above and take them to your local dealerships. But before you go, we highly recommend you call and make an appointment to see the Internet Fleet Manager because he/she should know exactly what you’re talking about. Avoid the floor salesmen, head straight to the Internet Sales Manager.

If they don’t believe your prices, ask to use one of their computers so they can see where these figures came from. It’ll be impossible for them to doubt you because you’re pulling up dealership’s website and checking their inventory. Remember, cars are a commodity so these prices apply everywhere in the U.S. If you want to research more new car prices, poke around on www.AutoBrag.com.

Is there any other cars you’d like me to look into? Keep us posted with how everything goes!




AutoBrag Deal Of The Day: 2008 Hyundai Sonata

August 1st, 2008

This is our 115th AutoBrag Deal Of The Day.  What we’ve done is searched through www.autobrag.com and discovered certain vehicles being sold for considerably less than market prices.  Usually, the dealerships are using these “loss leaders” as a way to gain more business.

We found a 2008 Hyundai Sonata SE 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5M) from Browns Manassas Hyundai

The lowest Internet Price: $14,990.00
MSRP: $22,070.00
ePrice: $14,990.00
Savings: $7,080.00
% OFF MSRP: 32.08 %

Why Is This The AutoBrag Deal Of The Day:

The average wholesale price for a used 2007 Hyundai Sonata 4-Cyl SE with 34,774 miles (average) is $11,100.00. If you were to buy this new car at sticker price of $22,070.00, after one year, your depreciation would be roughly 49.71% of the vehicle’s value or $10,970.00 over the 12 months or $914.17 per month. That does not even include the money you lose on sales tax and registration!

If you were to buy this specific 2008 Hyundai Sonata 4-Cyl SE for $14,990.00, you would be able to drive it for one year and trade it in or sell it at wholesale market for $11,100.00. That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $3,890.00 or $324.17 per month (not including taxes and fees). The depreciation for the period of one year would be 25.95%.

If the car was sold via private party the price would be about 5%-10% higher than wholesale. That means that you probably would sell this car for about $11,655.00 (5% over wholesale) to $12,210.00 (10% over wholesale). That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $3,335 to $2,780.00 or per month that would be $277.92 to $231.67 (not including taxes and fees).

Using AutoBrag’s Deal Of The Day, the Dealer eats 64.54% of year one’s depreciation based on wholesale market for the same vehicle.

For disclosure purposes WE DO NOT receive compensation from Browns Manassas Hyundai; we are just trying to save car consumers time and money.

Crash Test and Rollover Ratings for the 2008 Hyundai Sonata.




AutoBrag Deal Of The Day: 2008 Hyundai Accent

July 21st, 2008

This is our 108th AutoBrag Deal Of The Day.  What we’ve done is searched through www.autobrag.com and discovered certain vehicles being sold for considerably less than market prices.  Usually, the dealerships are using these “loss leaders” as a way to gain more business.

We found a 2008 Hyundai Accent GS 2dr Hatchback (1.6L 4cyl 4A) from Fitzgerald Hyundai of Gaithersburg

The lowest Internet Price: $8,688.00
MSRP: $11,470.00
ePrice: $8,688.00
Savings: $2,782.00
% OFF MSRP: 24.25 %

Why Is This The AutoBrag Deal Of The Day:

The average wholesale price for a used 2007 Hyundai Accent GS 2dr Hatchback with 24,600 miles (average) is $8,500.00. If you were to buy this new car at sticker price of $11,470.00, after one year, your depreciation would be roughly 25.89% of the vehicle’s value or $2,970.00 over the 12 months or $247.50 per month. That does not even include the money you lose on sales tax and registration!

If you were to buy this specific 2008 Hyundai Accent GS 2dr Hatchback for $8,688.00, you would be able to drive it for one year and trade it in or sell it at wholesale market for $8,500.00. That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $188.00 or $15.67 per month (not including taxes and fees). The depreciation for the period of one year would be 2.16%.

If the car was sold via private party the price would be about 5%-10% higher than wholesale. That means that you probably would sell this car for about $8,925.00 (5% over wholesale) to $9,350.00 (10% over wholesale). That means that you would drive a new car for one year and have a proffit from $425.00 to $850.00 or per month that would be $35.42 to $70.83 (not including taxes and fees).

Using AutoBrag’s Deal Of The Day, the Dealer eats 93.67% of year one’s depreciation based on wholesale market for the same vehicle.

For disclosure purposes WE DO NOT receive compensation from Fitzgerald Hyundai of Gaithersburg; we are just trying to save car consumers time and money.




AutoBrag Deal Of The Day: 2009 Hyundai Sonata

July 14th, 2008

This is our 103rd AutoBrag Deal Of The Day. What we’ve done is searched through www.autobrag.com and discovered certain vehicles being sold for considerably less than market prices.  Usually, the dealerships are using these “loss leaders” as a way to gain more business.

We found a 2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A) from Browns Manassas Hyundai

The lowest Internet Price: $15,363.00
MSRP: $20,085.00
ePrice: $15,363.00
Savings: $4,722.00
% OFF MSRP: 23.51 %

Why Is This The AutoBrag Deal Of The Day:

The average wholesale price for a used 2008 Hyundai Sonata GLS with 19,375 miles (average) is $13,500.00. If you were to buy this new car at sticker price of $20,085.00, after one year, your depreciation would be roughly 32.79% of the vehicle’s value or $6,585.00 over the 12 months or $548.75 per month. That does not even include the money you lose on sales tax and registration!

If you were to buy this specific 2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS for $15,363.00, you would be able to drive it for one year and trade it in or sell it at wholesale market for $13,500.00. That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $1,863.00 or $155.25 per month (not including taxes and fees). The depreciation for the period of one year would be 12.13%.

If the car was sold via private party the price would be about 5%-10% higher than wholesale. That means that you probably would sell this car for about $14,175.00 (5% over wholesale) to $14,850.00 (10% over wholesale). That means that you would drive a new car for one year and pay $1,188.00 to $513.00 or per month that would cost $99.00 to $42.75 (not including taxes and fees).

Using AutoBrag’s Deal Of The Day, the Dealer eats 71.71% of year one’s depreciation based on wholesale market for the same vehicle.

For disclosure purposes WE DO NOT receive compensation from Browns Manassas Hyundai; we are just trying to save car consumers time and money.

Crash Test and Rollover Ratings for the 2009 Hyundai Sonata.




How Much Should I Pay: 2008 Toyota Rav4 & 2008 Hyundai Tucson & 2008 Subaru Forester

Question From Joy: I’m intereseted in any of the following:
Toyota RAV4 Base
Tuscon Hyundai SE
Subaru Forester (base)
Subaru Legacy w/esc
Honda CR-V

Yes, all 2008.
Yes AWD
4C preferred when available for improved gas mileage
ESC is electronic stability control — a must for us. It can be called dynamic stability control.
The musts include electronic stability control, curtain and front airbags and fog lights. Extras that add to the costs are not desired. The car is for my recent college graduate daughter who is moving to upstate NY and will be traveling back to PA frequently. Safety is BIG, fuel economy 2nd in importance and last is avoiding spending more than we must. Some dealers offer college discounts, I understand. We are open to other car suggestions.Thanks for your help.

Queen of the Road: Hi Joy. Just to get the ball rolling, I researched each car to find our best deals so that you can get an idea of the how large a discount you can obtain from MSRPs. What style of the Honda CR-V and Subaru Legacy are you looking for?

For a 2008 Toyota RAV4 4dr SUV 4WD (2.4L 4cyl 4A),

The Largest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $20,843.00
MSRP: $24,234.00
ePrice: $20,843.00
Savings: $3,391.00
% OFF MSRP: 13.99%
This deal was rated a Thumbs Up.

For a 2008 Hyundai Tucson SE 4dr SUV 4WD
(2.7L 6cyl 4A),

The Largest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $20,001.00
MSRP: $23,960.00
ePrice: $20,001.00
Savings: $3,959.00
% OFF MSRP: 16.52%
Another Thumbs Up deal.

Financial Incentive$: A Cash Back Incentive of $1,000-$1,500 is being offered to the Consumer upon purchase. Offer Expires: 7/31/2008

For a 2008 Subaru Forester 2.5 X L.L.Bean Edition 4dr Wagon AWD (2.5L 4cyl 4A),

The Largest Percentage Off MSRP Price: $24,998.00
MSRP: $27,340.00
ePrice: $24,998.00
Savings: $2,342.00
% OFF MSRP: 8.57%

What are all these blue links for? The first blue link breaks down the numbers so that you don’t have to do any math or researching. You’ll see exactly how much money you’re saving if you pay the “Internet Price”. It also lists the National Average Discount, the National Maximum Discount and the National Average Price for each vehicle. We also provide our personal opinion to whether we think the deal is good or not.

If we approve the deal, we’ll show a thumbs up and “Bring Your Checkbook“.

If we think the deal is ok, we’ll show a thumb tilted sideways and “Fair Market“.

If we disapprove the deal, we’ll show a thumbs down and “Keep Shopping“.

The second blue link is the proof you’ll need when you step foot onto the dealership. Don’t leave home without it! It’s the page that shows the price which you’ll be asking for. It’s basically what you need to pull up on their computers if they don’t believe you found that price online form that dealer’s inventory.

So now what? Print out all the blue links above and take them to your local dealerships. But before you go, we highly recommend you call and make an appointment to see the Internet Fleet Manager because he/she should know exactly what you’re talking about. Avoid the floor salesmen, head straight to the Internet Sales Manager.

If they don’t believe your prices, ask to use one of their computers so they can see where these figures came from. It’ll be impossible for them to doubt you because you’re pulling up a dealership’s website and checking their inventory. Remember, cars are a commodity so these prices apply everywhere in the U.S. This car in New York should cost the same in Las Vegas. The taxes vary by state. Keep us posted with how everything goes.




How Much Should I Pay: 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe (Updated)

July 12th, 2008

 

This Is An Update To A Previous Question

Follow Up Comment: Thanks for your response about my shopping :)

I feel like I spent the day in a shark tank looking at several cars and wondering how to play the buyer’s market game to not get eaten alive.

I would be the 3rd owner of this 2007 GLS if I buy. It has 15,820 miles. Engine size 2.7. The dealer who has it now showed me the carfax report that it was part of a rental fleet near NYC. The first 10,000+ were put on it there in 6 months.
The rest were acquired as driven by one of the current owners of the dealership. I test drove it and looked it over and inspected the service record. Nothing seemed outstanding except a few cosmetic issues –mismatched floor mats and missing covers for the cigarette lighters.

What do you think of $18500 for this car?

A similarly appointed new Santa Fe with rebate $2500 was offered at 22900. I wonder what the best long term purchase is?

Queen of the Road: Hi John. Yes, it’s quite intimidating knowing you’re bargaining with car salesmen. They are professionals when it comes to manipulating your decision. To answer your question: $18,500 is a ridiculous price to pay. Especially for a rental car. You know it was driven to the max. That car is a sour deal.

For a 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe AWD V6 2.7L GLS with 15,800 miles, prices range from $15,300 (being in above average condition) to $14,700 (being in average condition) and $14,000 (being in below average condition). Keep in mind that the numbers above are the wholesale prices. A dealership will usually aim to sell it for +12%-14% more than wholesale, so their estimated retail prices could range from $15,500 to $17,000.

As for the NEW Santa Fe, is $22,900 the ‘after rebate is applied’ price OR ‘before rebate is applied’ price? I found deals that were offered at $21,900.